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Big_Rob 06-11-2008 12:21 PM

Change we can believe in! (Believe our 2nd amendment rights will be toast!)
 
On the Second Amendment,
Don�t Believe Obama!
The presidential primary season is finally over, and it is now time for gun owners to take a careful look at just where apparent nominee Barack Obama stands on issues related to the Second Amendment. During the primaries, Obama tried to hide behind vague statements of support for �sportsmen� or unfounded claims of general support for the right to keep and bear arms.
But his real record, based on votes taken, political associations, and long standing positions, shows that Barack Obama is a serious threat to Second Amendment liberties. Don�t listen to his campaign rhetoric! Look instead to what he has said and done during his entire political career.
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FACT: Barack Obama voted to allow reckless lawsuits designed to bankrupt the firearms industry.1
FACT: Barack Obama wants to re-impose the failed and discredited Clinton Gun Ban.2
FACT: Barack Obama voted to ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.3
FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a complete ban on handgun ownership.2
FACT: Barack Obama supports local gun bans in Chicago, Washington, D.C., and other cities.4
FACT: Barack Obama voted to uphold local gun bans and the criminal prosecution of people who use firearms in self-defense.5
FACT: Barack Obama supports gun owner licensing and gun registration.6
FACT: Barack Obama refused to sign a friend-of-the-court Brief in support of individual Second Amendment rights in the Heller case.
FACT: Barack Obama opposes Right to Carry laws.7
FACT: Barack Obama was a member of the Board of Directors of the Joyce Foundation, the leading source of funds for anti-gun organizations and �research.�8
FACT: Barack Obama supported a proposal to ban gun stores within 5 miles of a school or park, which would eliminate almost every gun store in America.9
FACT: Barack Obama voted not to notify gun owners when the state of Illinois did records searches on them.10
FACT: Barack Obama voted against a measure to lower the Firearms Owners Identification card age minimum from 21 to 18, a measure designed to assist young people in the military.11
FACT: Barack Obama favors a ban on standard capacity magazines.12
FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory micro-stamping.13
FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory waiting periods.2
FACT: Barack Obama supports repeal of the Tiahrt Amendment, which prohibits information on gun traces collected by the BATFE from being used in reckless lawsuits against firearm dealers and manufacturers.14
FACT: Barack Obama supports one-gun-a-month sales restrictions.9
FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on inexpensive handguns.9
FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on the resale of police issued firearms, even if the money is going to police departments for replacement equipment.9
FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory firearm training requirements for all gun owners and a ban on gun ownership for persons under the age of 21.9
1. United States Senate, S. 397, vote number 219, July 2, 2005. (http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LI...n=1&vote=00219)
2. Independent Voters of Illinois/Independent Precinct Organization general candidate questionnaire, Sept. 9, 1996. The responses on this survey were described in �Obama had greater role on liberal survey,� Politico, March 31, 20087. (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9269.html)
3. United States Senate, S. 397, vote number 217, Kennedy amendment July 2, 2005. (http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LI...n=1&vote=00217)
4. David Wright, Ursula Fahy and Sunlen Miller, "Obama: 'Common Sense Regulation' On Gun Owners' Rights," ABC News' "Political Radar" Blog, http://blogs.abcnews.com, 2/15/08. (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalra...common-se.html)
5. Illinois Senate, March 25, 2004 SB 2165, vote 20.
6. �Fact Check: No News In Obama's Consistent Record.� Obama �08, December 11, 2007. (http://www.barackobama.com/factcheck...n_obamas_c.php)
7. �Candidates' gun control positions may figure in Pa. vote,� Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Wednesday, April 2, 2008, and "Keyes, Obama Are Far Apart On Guns," Chicago Tribune, 9/15/04. (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pitt.../s_560181.html)
8. 1998 Joyce Foundation Annual Report, p. 7. (http://www.joycefdn.org/pdf/98_AnnualReport.pdf)
9. �Obama and Gun Control,� The Volokh Conspiracy, taken from the Chicago Defender, Dec. 13, 1999. (http://www.volokh.com/posts/1203389334.shtml)
10. Illinois Senate, May 5, 2002, SB 1936 Con., vote 26.
11. Illinois Senate, March 25, 2003, SB 2163, vote 18.
12. �Clinton, Edwards, Obama on gun control,� Radio Iowa, Sunday, April 22, 2007. (http://learfield.typepad.com/radioio...n_edwards.html)
13. Chicago Tribune blogs, �Barack Obama: NIU Shootings call for action,� February 15, 2008, (http://blogs.trb.com/news/politics/b..._on_shoot.html)
14. Barack Obama campaign website: �As president, Barack Obama would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment . . .� (http://www.barackobama.com/issues/ur...aw-enforcement.)

Twisted Avatar 06-11-2008 12:41 PM

Re: Change we can believe in! (Believe our 2nd amendment rights will be toast!)
 
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JJ_ 06-11-2008 12:51 PM

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Twisted Avatar 06-11-2008 01:03 PM

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great pic......... people better wise up and fast!!



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Big_Rob 06-11-2008 01:11 PM

Re: Change we can believe in! (Believe our 2nd amendment rights will be toast!)
 
Is that a Medusa that lady is holding in that pic?

Cassius 06-11-2008 01:27 PM

Re: Change we can believe in! (Believe our 2nd amendment rights will be toast!)
 
You're behind the times, Obama changed his campaign slogan to "Change That Works For You"

/puke

Twisted Avatar 06-11-2008 01:39 PM

Re: Change we can believe in! (Believe our 2nd amendment rights will be toast!)
 
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Originally Posted by Big_Rob (Post 1141667)
Is that a Medusa that lady is holding in that pic?

I dunno but that chit looks awesome.......

I thought it was a desert eagle first glance......


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SilverSalmon 06-11-2008 02:16 PM

Re: Change we can believe in! (Believe our 2nd amendment rights will be toast!)
 
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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1141709)
I dunno but that chit looks awesome.......

I thought it was a desert eagle first glance......


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Not a desert eagle, it looks like a revolver. I could be wrong, I'm a noobie! to firearms, but making progresss fast! The Time is near!

Big_Rob 06-11-2008 02:40 PM

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Its a http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Firearms...ba_Model_6.htm

JJ_ 06-11-2008 02:43 PM

Re: Change we can believe in! (Believe our 2nd amendment rights will be toast!)
 
pretty sweet looking novelty pistola

Twisted Avatar 06-11-2008 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JJ ShortStroke (Post 1141815)
pretty sweet looking novelty pistola


hell yeah........ that has a huge amount of intimidation factor just LOOKING at the thing.


Ruff, real ruff and nasty.


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